The problem with this whole segment is that both racism and the Christian faith are so disconnected from the class relations from which they emerged. It's to the point that people like this pastor can acknowledge that race and religion have been used to forward the oppression that we see in America, and across the globe, while simultaneously disregarding the purpose for which it was done which was/is to centralize wealth and solidify class distinctions- something that he profits off of and encourages through prosperity gospel on a regular basis. You cannot believe in and encourage the unfettered acquisition of material goods while also saying that you are against racism and for actual biblical Christian values. Acts 4:32-35, John 2:13-22

I stopped going to church years ago due to some hypocrisies within the church I was at but I would definitely go to this guy’s church

Probably going to receive a lot of backlash for this lol, but referring to the part about waiters treating black vs white guests differently (just tolerating vs greeting) I don’t think is as much of a racism issue as it is a respect issue. I have worked service industry a long time, and generally black guests have been likely to not tip well or not be as understanding when small inconveniences occur throughout their service. This is true even when the servers themselves are black, serving black guests oftentimes. It’s an expectation of disrespect or thought that “this could likely be a negative interaction” that brings the difference of attitude.

*Dekil* Don’t Even Know I’m Lying

I really really enjoyed this episode, it was eye-opening for me. Thank you for informing and teaching us, Emmanuel

I'm a white dude in Canada. Moved here from Ukraine with mom. Racism is everywhere. In Ukraine it is most definitely there, but in the relatively short time I spent growing up there, I can say that it is not as deeply seeded, culturally, emotionally, systematically as it is in "The United States". Wtf is so "United" about you!? I have to suppress that rant. Thats not the main point i'd like to share. I remember as a kid, there was a missionary of some sort that came, and was handing out bibles to kids in the area, it was almost like a little event. I randomly stumbled upon it when I was walking around. I picked one up. I've read it. And I've never read another one. That particular book as much as I can remember of it anyway, was a very nicely condensed, and presented to a child audiance, told a story. And that story had a lot of very powerful notions, morals. But it was a story. And that is how I took it. I grew up in a not very religious, but still an soviet Orthadox family. But in school in Ukraine, I've learned a lot of history. European and some Asian history. Thousands of years of history. United States on the other hand is so young, it is so immature. It gained a lot of political power, and it went around flaunting it around the world like it knows whats up. yet leaving behind a lot of damage from its intrinsically hipocritical act. Going even further back, religion, especially Christianity, from the very beginning, has been about power. Power over those who do not have it. I do not know if god exists, or doesn't, i wont go and try to convince you either way. I took the essentials from that story. I think it's about how you carry yourself, and how you act. But not how you act to appease others, or to make yourself appear like you "fit in" and to get patts on your shoulder about it while you try to live your own life and figure it all out. It has to come from self awareness, from inside. I think it's about seeing what you are doing, seeing what you are thinking, and self "policing" yourself in terms of morals. (not about the racism part, just morals in general). So the point is, I see so many people act angelic, and self ritious. And really happy about the things they say. Things that other people see them do/say in public, in their community. But then they go back home, and continue their "normal" natural ways. Essentially hiding behind the vail of "god will forgive my sins", hiding behind the religion. Completely missing the point of the passages. And others who take it to the other extremes. Drives me completely nuts. Carl, I am sorry, I do not know you, and know nothing about what you may have done for and in your community. But you do not sound genuine. You sound like you enjoy the sound of your own voice, and need that pat on your shoulder for saying the right things. Regardless, this dialog is very important and I'd love to see it happen with everybody. Every walks of life. People like Carl included. Whether he is truly an amazing human being and genuine, or not. We have to look inside ourselves and make the changes to ourselves. If we as people, religious or not religious, continue with a charade like Christianity (if you are Christian, I am not attacking you individually. you must acknowledge what has been done for thousands of years. if you've only had an opportunity to learn about the history of Columbus and United States, but nothing before that. I invite you to go and research further back) overall, and The "united" states has been doing -- we won't change a thing. This needs to happen on an individual level, genuinely. It cannot simply serve as a pat on your shoulder that you feel you need to fit in with the latest trend, and in your church on Sundays. It has to be honest, true, and genuine. It cannot be a show. Otherwise, you'll never be able to unsew the problems buried and built-in to the system, the government, policies, and the culture. Emmanuel, thank you so very much for making these videos. I really wish and hope this dialog continues everywhere.

I would love to see a conversation with non-Black POC. There's definitely anti-Black racism in other communities of colour and I think engaging in a conversation like this would hopefully help bridge the gap. Love ur videos

Hi 👋 I’m Militza. I’m 19 years old and I am a student at the Fashion institute of Technology in NYC . I want to have an uncomfortable conversation about sexism, sexual harassment, sexual objectification etc. I strongly believe the that’s an issue that needs to be spoken about because women like me have had these experiences and I want to know what you think about having that kind of conversation?

Being landless means being subjected to endless poverty - #panafricanquotes

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater ... I wouldn't want Carl Lentz to preach to my kitty litterbox

Carl Lentz should be having an uncomfortable conversation with himself cheating on his wife

Carl Lentz was pipin down some girl who wasn’t his wife when this interview aired. Just FYI.

I don't agree with everything Carl was saying, but this video is great to watch and learn from.

Such a "me focused" version of church. You don't go to church to get something, going to church should be about giving God the glory he deserves and learning his word so we can live out God's will for us. "not feeling safe" because of what the pastor believes? A pastors job is to teach the Bible. What he believes should be the Bible, the Bible is sufficient. A pastor isn't supposed to be your cheerleader or therapist. He is a shepherd and a teacher.

"How can you love God and hate man?" AMEN BROTHER

I have no idea how I got to this video but i am glad I did.

I love watching these types of videos. It inspires me everyday it keeps the passion I have to be a Christian activist for social justice. I have a calling to “defeat spiritual things within this world that have been defeated.” (Prophecy given to me) Watching these videos gives me hope. Thank you Emmanuel😁

Could you do a conversation with someone like Ben Shapiro or Steven crowder or candace Owens a black women who disagrees with your view points because I think that would be an incredibly interesting conversation

Why is there a pastor with a threat of violence on his shirt

I really, as someone with auditory processing issues, need to say huge thank you for captions on this. It helps me better understand what’s being said.

As a gay man I have a beef with Christian church and completely get what the pastor is saying in relation to black people. I think we all have some work to do to be better to one another.

These are some of the most eye opening, real, educating conversations I have ever had the pleasure of watching! Thank You!

This didn't age well.

Carl Lentz- fired from Hillsong in November for adultery and issues with his leadership. I question his authenticity here.

Matthew 22:36-40 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Why does the concept of "love thy neighbor" seem to be lost among so many that claim themselves to be Christians?

Can you please do a uncomfortable conversation with a social media influencer like famous tik tok influencers

so wonderful that he can confess to so much and provide such great baby steps to being better now

Cancel cultural

The early church fought slavery if not for them there would still be slavery!

Hip Christians are the fakest

White from a black neighborhood white in all black schools white with all black bosses and white with all black teachers white with all black friends white with all black peoples being racist towards me. This dudes views would shrink like his shirt.

I want this dude to interview me it would blow his mind!

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Should be called uncomfortable conversation with white people cuz he never looks uncomfortable about tell white people how they should be thinking and acting. If I was on there I'd be asking him the had questions making him feel uncomfortable for once talking about race I'm America. Its never uncomfortable for blacks cuz they can say and do whatever but whites have to watch what we say around yall and submit to have peace

9:30 He's talking about Louis Farrakhan

This is probably the best conversation I’ve seen on race and racism. There are lots but this is pretty good. One thing that I feel that we (black people of faith) have been avoiding is that we TOO have MANY racist, prejudice and biases that we too ought to be exploring, right now. We can not cry out to the world for being racist when we ourselves are far from the example. The last thought is that we are all (black white brown yellow whatever) a people who have sin, will sin, and continue to struggle with sin of different nature. And we all, everyone of us, is a work in progress.

When he mentions a minister he’s referring to the Honorable Louis Farrakhan 👌🏾💪🏾✊🏿

You should do a video on colourism xx

Not him quoting Farrakhan but can’t say Louis Farrakhan 😂😂😂

i would love to see an episode like this about muslims. As a muslim myself, i believe certain groups are underrepresented and we definitely have the same kind of problems as you touch on in this video

I definitely think he needs to have an uncomfortable conversation with a black woman OTHER THAN Oprah....Because the only person who has ever told me I was pretty for a black girl was a black guy 🤦🏾‍♀️ That conversation will likely be tooooo uncomfortable 🤷🏽‍♀️

You are incredible E

This episode is difficult to watch. As a member of the LGBTQ+ community living in the America, church has caused so much pain and suffering. This episode is about race, but many points hit so close to home.

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I would suggest that you have an uncomfortable Conversations with a Muslim Imam to know how important a religion particularly Islam that did not segregate race. Muslim no matter what races you are have been under oppression for a long time and being misunderstood and yet Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Just have a look a Hajj in Mecca, millions of people from all over the world come together doing a pilgrimage.

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do a episode with Ben Shapiro

So, if all white people are racist, why did a majority of black people vote for Joe Biden, who is a white man and racist because white people are racist?

Uhhh really hate that Carl Lentz, a complete narcissist/ predator is the representation used for “Christians”.

I love how he use one of the quotes from Minister Farrakhan, some day America will wake up.

I think when we saw what happen to George Floyd we were freshly taken aback; but what's the real root of the matter? However race and religion gives us Understanding; That a (nation of people) would be scattered all over, till this day!!! For disobedience towards their GOD. That the Curses follow this people and ( they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder and upond thy seed forever!!!!!!) Deuteronomy 28:1-68

It should have been evangelicals and Christians that were out front and center stage in the fight against police brutality and racism, but because the church was silent, BLM stepped up to fill the void. Now the first and loudest voices to criticize BLM are evangelicals/christians. What a sad irony. God bless you pastor Carl for your courage/willingness to take a stand.

Well this video has changed context a bit since this dudes fall from grace!

Carl lentz smh...

REALIST WhiteBoy EVER! 👏👏

I’m Muslim and I so wish all religious groups in America would come together for peace and love. Combat oppression of people and push for change. One day, maybe. It would be nice. I’m at least trying. I have friends who are Christian, Jewish, atheist, agnostic, wiccans, paganist, etc. we can do it people!! ♥️

Have you considered inviting a latino/a on set to have an uncomfortable conversation? As young first generation latino, I'd like see the thoughts of other latinos/as on racial matters and how the hispanic culture has shaped older generations and how it has and is shaping our generation in how race is viewed and treated.

Biggest fraud ever. Black folks needs to go back to our roots and worship our deities like Sango and Eledumare as opposed to these colonial masters religions that were brought to mentally and spiritually enslave us. Most racists I know go to church weekly. The man that enslaved you on earth cannot promise you heaven. This man was cheating on his wife for years but they will blame all on Satan. Smh.

Victimhood is so hot right now

No church should have 10K members.

I’m glad I am an athiest. Christianity is the bane of the black community

bro please call me if you want to make a video about African and African American...I am African..I served in the US Military as a combat Officer...lived in Chicago and now like in south carolina pursuing my MBA ..let me know and i can share my contact with you

This is Hogwash critical race theory garbage.

This man is a false prophet we rebuke him in Jesus name.Racism most definitely stems from Sin.This is what happens when people are not lead by the Spirit.( 2 Thessalonians 1-17)

No person is black or white. Until religious leaders and everyone else accept it and represent the truth nothing will really change. The lies of race is not of GOD. The need to divide people based on skin color, especially by terms that are untrue is something people did long ago out of pure evil. Continuing such traditions is not right and it’s exactly why the same repetitive issues keep resurfacing worldwide. There are nations of people, not races of people as it is currently applied. GOD created male and female that we call human beings which should be the only term used for race. That term must be considered from a humble perspective without deeming people as gods at all. The TRUTH matters and so does what we call ourselves as a people. The noticeable differences between human beings should not be emphasized by altering the truth regarding what and who people are. There’s too many variations of skin tones to truly divide people by their true colors. Surely GOD allowed such beautiful differences for a good purpose, not so people could turn it into a lie and disguise it as good and true. The outcome of doing that is evident in all aspects of the world and there’s nothing godly about it.

Religion dont care if your black or white they want mindless sheeple to give them money and to spared their plague of lies.

Oh I wish I could be the one interviewing this guy. Brother go hard and get to the real core of the issues. All of these bumper sticker answers and question are irritating as hell.

Trump isn’t a Christian

I agree, he looks nice in that shirt.

i have already commented once here about my disappointment that mr. acho chose a minister from a homophobic church to do this segment. now that this minister has been discredited as a spiritual leader, mr. acho might want to reshoot this episode with someone more respectable -- instead of simply someone with celebrity flash -- who can address the same questions.

Lean about the history of your faith. There are reasons that Sunday at church is the most segregated time in the U.S. A great book to help in this quest is "White Too Long: the Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity" by Robert P. Jones. Jones is the CEO and founder of Public Religion Research Institute. He would be a great person to have a conversation with.

I'm very sad that Rev. Lentz did not walk his talk. I hope he and his wife and kids find peace.

Great! Thanks for having Carl Lentz with you! Be blessed! I really like your Conversations - go on!!!

I thought Carl seemed like a douche when I first watched pieces of this video. And now, with all the news about him, I feel good in my douche-dar

Well that did not age well :D lål

9:40 .... He talking about the Minister. We know this.

Acho, these are dope convos. I wish these convos were longer so we could get more so into the weeds of these different topics.

There is not organizational racism in Catholic churches in America to my knowledge. Not saying there are not racist church members, but the membership (and also priests) is actually diverse (large numbers of immigrants) and all are equally accepted and differences celebrated. (In my personal opinion) My family is Catholic and I converted at 40 to protestant for my 2nd marriage. Even as a Southern woman, I was taken aback how segregated the churches are. It was something I took for granted and now miss. I really appreciate Carl's honesty and insight. I too agree God IS miraculous!

Jesus did not come to form a religion he came and preached Spirituality. Organized religion created by man has been used for thousands of years as a vehicle of divide and conquer. Those people over there are different than us so they are evil and must be converted or destroyed! Those people over there are heathens and must be enslaved or destroyed. Organized religion has been the vehicle for conquering, colonizing, stealing wealth and territories. Christians preached for slavery! Now politicians do the exact same divide and conquer tactics. Racism is perpetuated to ensure division so that the supposed elites can keep we the people fighting with each other. As opposed to standing together against them. Racism is bought and paid for we need an uncomfortable conversation about that before we the people of the world can fix the division! We are all Spiritually connected, we were all created in "GOD'S" image. Now is the time for all people to awaken from being controlled.

You being a religious man (from what I have gathered), I would like to see an episode on an uncomfortable conversation with an Atheist. If you are curious who to interview I would suggest Jim and Armin from atheistrepublic.com podcast, it would be a great crossover podcast as well. The reason I personally would like to see something like this is based on the "selling" of religion to non-religious and would give a positive perspective on religion to a staunch anti religious group. Growing up in a religious family and becoming Atheist myself I can freely see both sides of the perspective as I saw the focus on the good aspects of religion and until learning about more parts of the bible later in life really skipped over the parts many now would oppose such as Slavery and the treatment of your wife. Also in my personal experience (I am white) it has appeared to me that the majority of Black Americans are a church going group (that does not always constitute religious, but often more of a social expectation as I have also experienced being white when living in the south, it wasn't if you believed in God, it was "what church do you go to" as an expectation that you went to church).

Well this backfired. Praying for this pastor. He should have grabbed a non-celebrity, more stable white male pastor. There are a lot.

love this.. but ofc the black lgbt community wasn’t mentioned 🤦🏾‍♂️🙄

I wanna see this guy talking with Shapiro or Peterson tbh.

I really like this pastor!

I can see why churches/religions are so cult-like. Man really has a way with words. Them metaphors were on point. Almost made me wanna stop believing that Christianity is bullshit 🤣 Edit: nvm. I got to the “treat racism like this country treated covid” part. 9 months later and the country has just learned to adapt to covid instead of trying to stop it 😬

Joe Rogan prophesied this man’s cheating back in 2018 4:30 mnmore.info/bin/video/e3rYuLSEpajIrNo

The minister he was talking about is Minister Louis Farrakhan on the Phil Donahue show. He had a great conversation with the audience after the show where they could ask questions check it out

was adoring this series til you sat down with a noted homophobe....

For a lack of knowledge my people perish. This division within the nation is a Sin issue. Sin doesn’t just affect the internal. It also affects the physical and outside parts of our world.

I know james Baldwin is turning over in his grave. His favorite go to lines. "What is racism" or "I dont see racism"......

Ahhhh........ This was going fairly well fo me until the 12min mark. To here the host say he would want to hear something even if it is wrong disconnected my ears. That is a major issue understanding that A LIE is a major component of DENIAL. This type of behavior is why so many people either do not believe in the bible or just refuse to deal with it. A true believer should not have to make erroneous statements, but live as God directs us. In my opinion that would be enough said. No mo' talk........

Who’s here after he was fired and got cheated on his wife

Something about these rich orgs I do not trust, The Hillsong empire pulled in tax-free revenues of nearly $100 million internationally.

But it is about sin though. Because if it wasn’t for sin we wouldn’t see colors, we would have walked naked like were were created, we wouldn’t see a person just as their skin color, we wouldn’t be scared of going out and being because of our skin color. It is about sin because if there weren’t sin, we would have loved anybody unconditionally. So in general, it is about sin and about skin. I think if they weren’t sin we wouldn’t see skin so we can’t separate sin with skin issues in this world.

I just gonna say it. Had this man of god been part of the church i grew up in and gave so much to i would have not left the church

I sure hope whites just admit we’re all evil.

Wow, Carl Lentz just made this 10x more uncomfortable. He was actively involved with Ranin when he made this video.

This man is dangerous. The stand this church has regarding lgbt people kills.

Acting so woke.... so urban, but he is so disingenuous!!!

I would like to see this with a prophet or apostle of the Mormon church.